Edit: Click on this link and you will completely understand what the above stamp and below description means.
Even if I explain it, it seems a lot of people are too fucking dumb to see what the actual intention behind this statement is and completely misunderstand it, so I hope the direct below link in the Edit will help.
This isn't about religion itself. I don't care about what you believe in, stop preaching, it makes you sound foolish and lazy, like you couldn't be bothered to read anything in the description.
This is about being able to express an opinion about religion, any religion. I'm not going to explain this to anyone anymore. If you're too dumbfucked to be able to read or comprehend anything written here without actually preaching, then it's not my fault and I wash my hands of you.
I don't get it. People express their love/like of God, Jesus, religion, etc and expect us to respect their opinions/statements, be tolerant and civil and yet whenever someone else says something like I hate God/Jesus/Religion they get offended and become some of the most intolerant people I've ever met.
We've as much right to the above as you do to these:
A friend of mine was actually denied being allowed onto a Greyhound bus only because he was wearing a t-shirt with the exact same words as my stamp. The people on the bus were offended and quite frankly I don't see why. Things like this happened several times to myself as well as I also own clothing that say I hate God/Jesus on them. I once wore a black t-shirt that said I hate Jesus to a bar some friends and I were regulars at and the owner told me I couldn't come in unless I changed my shirt. I refused, we argued, I'm now banned.
I'm also just as sick of going onto my Facebook every day and seeing your I love God/Jesus crap all over my wall, or wearing t-shirts that say you love Jesus, or your hats, sweaters, bags, the cards in shops, books, seeing those giant crosses in front of your churches, etc etc etc. For as much as Christian's preach tolerance, they're some of the most intolerant people I know when it comes to anyone saying anything about their faith.
If religious people have the right to express their love for God/Jesus/religion, the opposite must also be true, respected and tolerated.
I won't censor my opinions, thoughts or ideas for your precious feelings. It isn't my responsibility to hold your hand and pamper to your spiritual insecurities.
This is in no way propagating hatred, because hating something and hatred are two entirely different things. It's allowed on dA to express an opinion or statement, even if that opinion or statement is hating something. Or else, the below would not be allowed:
So be offended, hurt or angry, you're well within your rights to be. But be tolerant, respectful and civil even when faced with an opinion/ideal that doesn't conform to yours.
Three wannabe-prophets have already called me "demon" or "anti-christ" - Just because I wore a t-shirt that has a reaper-like skeleton with an up-side-down pentagram on it's forehead when I crossed their paths (don't get me wrong - I'm not a satanist or something, I just like the print).
I believe in expressing your opinions tastefully. Hating bread is different than hating a person. That's sorta like someone saying "I love Hitler". Yeah. You have the right to saying it, but should you?
It's fine to have your own opinions and beliefs, but choosing to offend someone rather than being the better person, is selfish. We have enough people in the world that care only about themselves, which is why this whole "freedom of speech and expression" creates such issues in the first place. You have the right to express yourself, but you have no right to offend others. People forget that part of free will. That is why statements like this are not tolerated. Not because your right has been infringed upon.
I see your point, and I'm not saying you are a self-conceded person for posting this. I am simply bringing up an argument from the other side.
I've already heard every argument from the other side, but none have any bearing on the topic of discussion. You're all missing the larger picture. But I try to give everyone an equal opportunity to understand what the actual subject is, so once again:
It doesn't matter that people are offended, it's completely subjective, which is why some people find it offensive while others do not. I have every single right to express an opinion regardless of the fact that it may or may not offend you or anyone else, again it's entirely subjective and out of my control.
But I digress, since the subject of discussion isn't religion itself, but being able to express an opinion on the subject of religion regardless if it offends one person or hundreds, or even thousands. People are executed for this very thing people take for granted: freedom of speech. You should read up on blasphemy laws and educate yourself, it's a very real and very important matter that still affect people in other countries today where human rights aren't a priority.
So yes, this statement is absolutely tolerated, because that's what the subject is about: you're offended and that's ok, you have every right to be, but you will show tolerance nonetheless. We may not like what the Westboro Baptist Church say or do, or Scientologists, or the KKK, or any other organization that is hell bent on producing as many douchebags as humanly possible, but we absolutely must show tolerance because they are well within their rights to their opinions however much we may disagree so long as said opinions/expressions are never used against others.
If we don't show tolerance, then we're just as guilty as the millions of people who demand the execution of those they judge as blasphemers simply because they disagree with what is being said. Tolerance must go both ways, it isn't something that you only use for those who shit flowers and sunshine.
That's how freedom of speech works. It's for everyone, regardless of how you may feel about it.
If you haven't already, as I've said, you should read up on blasphemy laws and cases, especially the recent ones, like the case of a little girl being imprisoned because a bunch of people decided they didn't want to show tolerance.
Also, hating something is not an insult, nor is it offensive, and it most definitely is the same as hating bread (which I don't hate, mind you, I fucking love bread). And why can't people say they love Hitler? They have every right to, regardless of how sick this twisted fuck was. We have the right to say it, but should we? Why the fuck not? Like I've said, there are people who are imprisoned and/or executed for the very thing you're telling me should not be tolerated.
This supposedly goes against dA's rules (if they actually followed them). We're not allowed to bash other people's religions and religious figures. Not to mention that this stamp is fucking offensive to me and about a third of all people in the world. I'm fucking reporting this.
You're suppose to be offended, but show tolerance nonetheless. Free speech isn't just for people who shit flowers and sunshine, it's also for those whose opinion you don't agree with nor like, regardless of how offensive you may find it.
Okay well people have fucking reported this and retardedART doesn't care, even though such things aren't allowed (which is what I read when I first signed up here). I'm sorry for saying the fuck word, but this stamp is just too much.
They don't care because it isn't against the rules. In no shape or form am I bashing anyone's religion by stating my opinion that "I hate Jesus". If I said I hated bread, am I bashing bakers all around the world? Of course not, that would be beyond stupid.
Also, this isn't about hating/liking religion, it's about being able to express an opinion about religion. It's about anti blasphemy laws, human rights and free speech. You clearly didn't read the description or this subject is beyond your ability to understand.
I read the description. It just made you look more stupid. This is your response to people saying they love Jesus. I'm sorry, but those two stamps did not, in any way, shape, or form, bash atheism. They simply expressed someone's religion. You can express your religion in other ways than bashing Jesus. I could just bash atheism. If you really wanted to show tolerance to Christians, you could shut the fuck up and not make this stamp at all. Making this stamp shows that you want Christians to tolerate your views, but that you "don't need" to return the favour. So what if you have the free speech to say something that hurts people?! What if someone starts making pro-Nazism stamps and says "it is just my free speech, even if it is against your views or if it offends you"? You're obviously trying to offend Christians because you feel offended by the fact that we want to show what religion we are. I do hope you can understand this, because it seems like this subject is beyond your ability to understand.
Again, you're missing the point and so I very much doubt that you actually read any part of the description above, nor any of the links therein.
This isn't about bashing anyone's religion, nor is it actually bashing religion to begin with. It's about freedom of speech, anti blasphemy laws and human rights.
Did you know that in some countries people are imprisoned and/or executed for saying something like "I hate Jesus/Mohammad/Allah/Buddha/God/etc"? That's what this stamp is about. It's about being able to express something on religion without the fear of persecution or execution, something which the human rights granted to you and I in North America protect us against regardless of what my opinion may be.
Whether or not it hurts or you find it offensive is irrelevant to the point that many people take their freedom of speech for granted and truly believe that it should only be granted to only those who shit flowers and sunshine, or to those they otherwise agree/like what they hear.
You're either trolling or you really are as ignorant of the world as you portray yourself to be.
Do yourself and everyone else a favor and educate yourself:
These are just some examples, there are so many more. I could just as well have said "I hate XXXX" and it would not have made a difference since the point was to quickly offend as many people as possible whilst bringing attention to a very real subject: People have died, are dieing now and will continue to die for expressing their freedom of speech.
If you cannot even understand this much, please remove yourself from this conversation and save yourself further embarrassment.
Yes, I know the point was to exercise your freedom of speech, but did you have to do it this way? Looking at your profile page, you seem to have an anti-atheism stamp and an anti-religion stamp (along with ones that say "penis" and "sex", because apparently those things are "funny"), so what religion are you? You seem to be showing me an article about a Christian who was imprisoned for his religion. So, what was that for? Why did you put that here? Also, if you want to win an argument, don't link to Wikipedia. When it says "free" and "anyone can edit", that's a sign that any bullshit could be put there. Again, back to the real subject, if you wanted to just offend everyone and then say it is all in the name of exercising your free speech and not caring nor agreeing with the content of the stamp, why not just make a stamp with a Nazi swastika or some white power shit? You don't agree with it, but since you have the free speech, you could do it anyway. Because, you know, FREE SPEECH, right? And it would be perfect because it would offend much more people than this stamp. I do hope you understand this, because you don't seem very smart. P.S. It's spelled "dying", not "dieing".
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