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Stop having kids... by BlackJill Stop having kids... by BlackJill the world was going to end tomorrow and you're fucking Adam & Eve. Noah isn't coming, he's in court for unpaid parking tickets.

So just stop it!

It's ridiculous, and there are kids who are in goddamn foster homes, orphanages, on the street, in juvenile detention centers.

19 Kids and counting. One after the other, as though you had some quota you had to meet. Why do you feel the need to have 19 kids?

And don't get me started on the parents who want multiples just so they can get their own spot on TV, get free shit, get money.


Why must you become a part of the problem? You don't need to have kids to feel validated as an adult, or even as a couple. Adopt.


~ Keep your legs closed.

~ Keep your dick in your pants.

~ Use a goddamn condom.

~ Get on the pill and stay on.

Stop raising your children on television for god's sake. I think some people have taken reality TV way too far. People like Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar (19 Kids and Counting) are incredibly selfish. She'd risk her life just for the sake of some ancient doctrine and for what? She'd end up leaving her family behind, leaving all of the responsibilities on the shoulders of her husband and the oldest children.

And it's not like they're the only ones who go forth and multiply either, a lot of families feel the need to have a lot of kids, some of which a lot end up not being able to support and seek government financial aid.

If you can't afford to support your kids, don't fucking have them. I don't understand how we call people who collect animals animal hoarders and yet people who have kid after kid after kid aren't considered a kind of hoarding.

Child hoarding.

Don't deny it, you know it's true. They hoard kids like people hoard animals. There needs to be a limit, but we can't trust our government to properly and fairly enforce it without violating people's rights. I mean, just look at China's One Child Policy.

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May change the stamp's design later. It's kinda hard to read.

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The-skilled Featured By Owner 16 hours ago  New member
Can I use this
Observer----1034 Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
SpazzinCat Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
it makes me just so disgusted to see people having loads of kids just because they can or because they think it benefits the earth in some way, when there may be some other children going with less just so their needs can be fulfilled.
nightchildmoonchild Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Spunnyz Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
-Rob Dyke
Terisutaen Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with this entirely. 
xXChocolate-CreamXx Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Babies are actually helpful, if there is no more babies, the world of humans would become extinct. 
BloodyNectar Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2014

at this rate of humans that are existing.

not really
NoseBleedingGirl Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Also don't forget the guy who has five wives and 24 Kids. I love kids but to many is just way too much.
MissesHolmes Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
If I want to have babies.
I. Will. Have. Babies.
Adoption is a long process. You often times can't even adopt because it takes forever.
I understand what you're trying to say, but it could be a little less 'STOP HAVING BABIES YOU STUPID FUCKING MORONS' anda little more 'don't have babies unless you know what you're in for/if you can't afford it and you KNOW you can't afford them.'
Having 15 kids isn't child hoarding if I wanted those 15 kids. Even if I didn't wan those kids and ended up having a vitro fertilization accident and end up with five babies, there's no shaming me for believing I can raise those kids.
Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
If you can't give those children enough food, care, etc., it is considered neglect. And those children would most likely be taken away by the government for that.
MissesHolmes Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Neglect is a different story.
Also, if I can't because I don't have enough money, then I would apply for food stamps or child support.
Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
And how will you get child support? You sill have to make money to support a family.
MissesHolmes Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I could have a job, for all you know. Also, There's a possibility I'm getting support from relatives or I'm married to a man/woman.
I don't see why people think having lots of kids automatically makes you a jobless bum.
Lots of people back then and now have up to eight or nine children sometimes and work jobs.
There's also the presented scenario that I'm a foster parent and get money from the government to help raise those children. As I've said before, I have a friend who is a foster child in the home of twelve people.
Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
As long as there's some foundation of money to do it, then it can be possible.
MissesHolmes Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
In the end though, how I conduct my life and household is MY business, not the public's. Nobody has the right to stick their nose into my business and tell me that I'm a slut or a hoarder or something else for having more than three children. 
It angers and saddens me that people do that. Slut shame or name-call people for wanting a large family, or telling them they shouldn't or can't raise a family of more than two or three because they're a bit low on cash at the moment. Countries have become so anti-family now for some reason, and I can't figure it out.
Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
I think it's because it is connected to taxpayer money. Outside countries are anti family because of population control. Like China. Yeah, people should be allowed to have privates in life.
Shadowheart-Darkclan Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
But I thought pregnancy was a longer process. Also if you have 15 kids you still have to pay for food, clothes, shelter and school fees. Thats a lot of wasted money.
MissesHolmes Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
No, it can take up to eight years or even longer for you to finally be able to adopt, depending on where you're adopting from and at what time. It only takes me nine months (not saying this lightly, as pregnancy can be strenuous) to pop out one or even on the occasion multiple babies. 
On the fifteen kids note, what if I want the kids? What might be a waste of money to you could be to me believing that a freak vitro fertilisation accident that gave me five babies to the addition of the ten kids that I have (that are a mixture of adoption and my own children) was a damn blessing. 
One man's trash is another man's treasure, señor/señorita. 
It tickles me on how people think that the '15 children and counting' people are 'child hoarders,' when it's THEIR choice at how many children they can have; children are people, not animals or objects. You can't horde your own species. 
On top of that, a lot of the people who have a lot of children saved those children from the hell that foster care/the adoption system is(the adoption system is much harder to get out of than foster care). I have a friend who has twelve adopted siblings, ALL from foster care, he being one of them. They might not have a lot of money, but so what? 
Being in foster care and the adoption system is the equivalent to being in a Gulash. You can get raped, killed, forced into prostitution, etc. 
Some people are okay with having twelve kids, adopted or your own flesh and blood, because they know they have a better home than some people will.
and yes, there are always acceptions, so you don't need to try and shove  them down my throat in attempts to prove some point. I am fully aware of their existence. 
Shadowheart-Darkclan Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Countries are different so it may take longer to adopt depending on which country/ continent you are in. Well my sister-in-law might of had a easy pregnancy she had a shit time being in labour. As for the whole 15 kids and couting thing i do not understand at all, who in their right mind would want that many kids. That would really fuck your body up. I understand if they want kids of their own blood but the kids in adoption centres are suffering like you said. I'm nit trying to shove all this in your face as a way to change your mind because i am not like that. Although i guess you should know that i have a hatred for children that can sometimes cloud my judgment of others (I usually don't judge people by their opinions) and by the way, humans are animals. We are nowhere near more superior.
MissesHolmes Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't think you realise that some of the kids in 15 and counting are adopted. 
And yes, labour is intense, but if we couldn't, as humans, take labour, we would have evolved away from it. We'd perhapse have sacks that the baby just comes out of or eggs. I dunno. But all in all, it's the person's choice. Birth is honestly not the worse part of pregnancy; but if they want to go through that fifteen times than so be it. It's their business, and shaming them is like slut shaming somebody for wanting to have babies. 
Also, I realise humans are animals. That's why we're in the ape family. 
When I referred to animals, I meant domesticated animals such as cats and dogs, goats and cows. They do not have as much as a consciousness as we do. Being born and bred into captivity makes them soft, reluctant to leave; humans have enough concience to know when or when not to leave home. Basically what I'm trying to say is, you can't horde something that knows it needs to leave sooner or later. People who raise foster kids, or even their own fifteen children, KNOW that someday their children will leave the nest. Hoarders are convinced that they can keep the animals/items they posses forever. 
Shadowheart-Darkclan Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I do respect your opinion and others decisions to have more than a regular amount of kids. My Dad was adopted as well as his non-biological sister who is also nearly deaf, all because his real father was a complete douche bag with no morals what-so-ever. Like I said, I have an intense hatred for children under the age of 9 which shows I will never be a good parent. But I respect the fact that you want kids so I would never dare try and stop you. But what I am asking is that you will try help settle our differences. I'm sorry if I offended you but I was only stating my opinion and I am allowed to do that.
dreameroftheblue Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
... how does people's love for large families affect you? why are you so angry about people wanting kids??
MacroscopicPonies Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Thank you for is so true.
Sleepstar Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I once saw a programme about a family with ten children and the mother was saying "that taxpayers are only good for is paying for large families". It's akin to child hoarding. One family that used to live in my street had seven kids, and nearly every single one was vandals. 
DaBair Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
What's even worse about the Duggars is that the kids are mostly cared for by the older girls because OfJimBob is too busy making more babies. The girls get most of the work due to evangelical misogyny.
GoodOldBaz Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow! Okays, people have the right to have as many kids as they want, or have as few as they want, or none at all if they want. :) I mean of course they should take into consideration how many kids they will be able to take care of before they have them, but some people can take care of lots kids. (I know some families with lots of kids who take care of them practically perfectly) just like people should be able to take care of whatever amount of animals they want, be it 1 or 2 or 3 or 8 or 10 or whatever, before they buy or breed them. :)

And of course you can have whatever opinion you want too, but so can I. :) Anyway just saying. I don't wanna argue.
CookieMilkShake Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014
I agree. I mean, if a couple wants to give birth to one or two, then fine (as long as they don't way overdo it like those two). But adoption should also be considered, especially in this overpopulated world. Besides, some people are better with a certain age group like the slightly older kids than they are with babies and toddlers. It would be easier, they would be helping a child in need, and they wouldn't have to take the risks that come with childbirth.
mongose11 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
um its called abortion 
RavenHeartVevo Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Student Digital Artist
mongose11 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
they should use abortion and condoms 
Foreverfoxwings Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What if the condom breaks and the dumb pro life people win and you can't fuk anymore just :iconbabyplz:
Vult108 Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014
These people are acting as if they are trying to preserve some sort of clan or religion by cranking out as many babies as possible. I am not going to say that they do not love their kids nor that they are being raised wrong, but it is still too much.

That, and they should not have broadcasted the situation.
LookAtMyLittlePoneh Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I feel this situation could actually be detrimental to the children's wellbeing though. Think about it.

Siblings are hard enough to deal with sometimes, as I don't often tend to observe siblings who are similar at all. Often one trait of the biological parents is present in every child, and gets 'blown up' more than it is significant to the parent. Siblings are a different bunch of people. You add in more and more, and it becomes absolute chaos and disharmony all around as the difference is multiplied and multiplied once more, quite needlessly because these parents apparently have never heard of a fucking CONDOM. Imagine 19 siblings. I'm sorry but I don't think that 19 siblings will be as "happy" and "luving" as much as they seem to portray on TV.

I'm not ashamed to admit there's some times where my sisters get on my nerves so much that I would prefer to lock myself in my room for days before I came out. At their worst, one can be the worst instigating sardonic sarcastic smart-arse ever and the other is the drama queen of snooty palace who honestly believes she's a horrible person and claims she hates people who give to charity. Yea, not the smartest girl on the block. Family is not everything, and yet these people are not letting the kids get out to make friends due to the immense volume of family. It smothers those poor kids. Family, along with any hobby/relationship should not be one you are forced to practice 24/7. I don't care what your religion is, that is plain unhealthy and mollycoddles the kids, the youngest especially. But I've seen the show out of morbid curiousity and those kids have no privacy and no time away from their family. That's wrong, plain and simple. But the eldest part of the clan have to take care of every last little brat so they get no life, and the youngest are mollycoddled and have no responsibility so they end up ridiculously spoiled. Too many cooks spoil the broth could not be more true for the youngest children of that family. A child needs ONE or maybe TWO SOLID caretaker/s for goodness sake. Elementary level psychology. Not everyone in that friggin huge-ass family. That means half the time the baby probably won't even know who it's mother is because it's passed around by every Tom, Dick and Harry. Now that's sad. That is a travesty.

Sorry if this seemed angry and ranting, but really it is a big deal, these kids will have mental problems by not having enough caretaker to go around just because their parents don't believe in birth control. Can't you see how plain NUTS that is? Children don't exist for our pleasure or to serve us. Once they are around, we exist to parent them responsibly. Parents always have to put more in the relationship, the kids are not little dolls. I wish more people would think hard about this children thing.
Vult108 Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2014


Actually, I did not find your message to be angry or ranting at; in fact, I actually agree with your post 100% and believe that you have explained the situation better than I ever could. I do not know if my message brought forth the correct message, but I what I meant to say was I believed that...whoever the parents are, I don't know their names nor care to know...were trying to keep a very outdated and sad tradition of mass-childbearing/children-are-our-labor-source alive despite the harmful consequences that it could bring. Both in regards to the woman (how is she even still alive?) and (mostly) to the wellbeing of the children (which, as I said, you explained this very well and even brought up some disturbing points that even I didn't think of at the time). Maybe the parents are not meaning to do this out of bad intentions, but still, this is very much "nuts" and cringeworthy when more things besides "family" is considered. And, like you said, family is not everything.

I am very sorry if I caused a misunderstanding.

LookAtMyLittlePoneh Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
lol you said "Michelle and Michelle" awesome mistake! XD I bet the actual Michelle would be mad at that XD
Other than that awesome stamp
BlackJill Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I never noticed that. Fixed error though.
Mikijoi Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2014
I feel sad for the children of those kinds parents. Their existence is for making money and they won't get proper attention or care. Again, it's selfish to want children for your own gain and not realise children need love, discipline and proper attention and it's hard to parent in general.
eatingwind Featured By Owner May 31, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I agree, some people need to learn how to keep their legs closed
RekaTheAmazingTaco Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2014
Have a kid, I won't care, but don't come crying to me when it's a little bratty bitch that wants everything they see on TV >_>
klokateer666 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014
There is no such thing is God, neither heaven, nor hell. There is no such place the garden of eden, and there is no god. Period. That is all the mtyh, all the lie, and all the buch a horseshit.
klokateer666 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2014
I don't want have kids on my own. I can masturbate whatever I want, whenever I want.
IeveIup Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

Nuff said.
Drakoma Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014
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Nye-Eclipsion Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
O mai
So interest
Much scared
Must repost

See my sarcasm?
It represents all the fucks I give.

Mistwolf4 Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2013  Student Artist
Actually it was 20 kids, but beacuase she kept having so many the 20th one died not long after birth :(
IronBatMaiden91 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013
I agree so much!! They act like we're in some post-apocalyptic world where we have to rebuild the earth after the last humans destroyed it and most of it's population.
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Trepidare Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013
LMAO! So true, I hate how idiots pop out babies like it's their reason for existence. This stamp would be perfect for someone who used to be my friend since I was 5 (we drifted apart and I sometimes see her on facebook, she does drugs now and the daddy isn't with her of course). She's part of a family on Welfare, and their family is a perfect example of how welfare can support this sort of thing, where it pays them more money for every baby they have so they keep on having them. My old friend had a baby as a teen, her mother who is now a grandmother just had another one, someone who's my little sister's age had one. Every girl in that family is a baby factory. It's just gross and awful, and I know they were raised that way, but wtf is so hard about learning and having sense?
AlcyoneSong Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
First of all, I agree with where you are coming from.

As a first time mom at 35 I was a little hurt by your comments, but as I read them I realized that I felt the same way many times.  

I know that the problem of unwanted children growing up in institutions is very real, that the crimes against our most innocent of victims happens all the time where children are born into bad situations where there was no financial stability or even emotional stability to give them.  I saw it personally as my neighbor who had two young boys would swear at them so loudly the whole neighborhood heard it.  The boys didn't do anything wrong, but their father was a drunk, and they took the full force of dad's abuse.  

Witnessing that among other atrocities committed against children in the news, I was afraid to have my own for a very long time.  Also, to be blunt, I didn't want kids.  I wanted to finish my education, to get my career going, to get a house, to go scuba diving, and to basically have FREEDOM.  

I saw my friends who did have kids lose their freedom over night, when suddenly their world revolved around their children and they could not do the stuff they used to do.  (Like stay up till 3AM playing D&D, or going to Dragon*Con last minute). I saw that, and I was like NOOooooOOOO way was I going to have kids!  

Then, well... life changed, and the stuff I used to like to do, didn't seem as fun.  I knew it was time, and my husband and I were both at the same place together on the matter.  Do I still like to game? Yes!  Do I still want to Scuba dive? More than ever!  Will I do it as much? I don't know.  Time will tell, but I do look forward to sharing comic cons and D&D with my son.  

Addressing the issue of multiple children:

Having 19+ kids does not make sense, but if the people can afford those children, and can give them a stable home I say go for it.   I feel bad for the mom though, I can't imagine going through 19 pregnancies now that I'm going through my first....  My uterus hurts just thinking about it.  

Yet, my great great grandmother had 14 children, but then she also lived on a farm in small village in Alsace-Lorrene, France.  
Times have changed and generally speaking the norm is to have 2 kids, because financially speaking, it costs a lot of money to raise kids.  These individuals who are having lots of children are going against the norm, and therefore they do stand out.  Calling them children-hoarders is a strong term, but I know it is reflecting your strong opinion about the matter, and I respect that.

Having children for the sake of religion is bull shit though.  I am a Christian, but I believe that a child is a huge responsibility, a baby WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE... there is no question to that, and there is NOTHING in the New Testament that states such a high responsibility should be taken by Christians foolishly.  Instead Paul says to marry so that we don't sin (aka sate our sex drive), but really during the time it was written Christians were being hunted down by the government and murdered in a type of genocide. 
Don't know about you, but being pregnant during any time of economical upheaval where I could be fed to lions or murdered would NOT be on my priority list!  

I think as a Christian, having children is a blessing, and that it is ok to NOT have kids too!  God isn't going to condemn someone for not having kids!  Look at Mother Theresa, she did not have any children of her own, yet she cared for the abused, neglected, and rejected children of Calcutta, India!  Tell me that is not evidence that God can shine through and use anyone???

The human race has a 100% mortality rate, and at our current state America is losing the baby boomer generation every day. Furthermore, there is an entire generation in Africa that has died from the AIDS crisis and is dying from the subsequent economical crisis resulting from corrupt government and natural disasters.

China has had a problem with it's "one child policy" due to the fact that their culture wants boys as boys inherit the family name and position.  This has resulted in many girl babies being terminated and a shift in the gender population to where there are more men than women.  Now China is facing a problem in that if there are too many men, and not enough women then the population will ultimately crash. This experiment in human gender is just an example of what happens when we mess with biology.  

The human race, like any other living creature, has had checks and balances to keep it stable.  It has been this way for thousands of years, and when we try to control it, problems happen.  Yes, we are living longer, but we are all going to die.  

So having one more baby really is not going to change that, what matters is being ready to accept the responsibility that comes with bringing life into this world.

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