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There is no such thing as... by BlackJill There is no such thing as... by BlackJill
So I've been discussing otherkin on tumblr lately and the more I talk with people the more it reinforces my belief that they're either mentally ill, attention whoring or just plain old wagon hopping on whatever new trend they see.

There is no such thing as otherkin as you can't be anything else but a human being in your human body. As for the idiots that compare their nonissues being otherkin with the issues that the LGBT community faces daily is just plain old insulting and stupid. They whine about how they're being oppressed, their rights violated, etc., and yet these twats aren't being denied any human right by being an otherkin.

- You'll never be denied work because you're an otherkin.
- You'll never be denied an education because you're an otherkin.
- You'll never be denied the right to marry because you're an otherkin.
- You'll never be denied the right to have children or adopt because you're an otherkin.
- You'll never be denied healthcare because you're an otherkin.
- You'll never be denied any human right because you're an otherkin.

So how the fucking fuck are your issues on par with that of the LGBT community? You'll never know what oppression is being an otherkin you fucking twatkin.

Claiming to be an otherkin has about as much legitimacy as claiming to be a Raelian or a Scientologist. They're all equally fictional, full of shit and/or delusional.

Most of you who really believe your own otherkin bullshit should seek professional help/treatment. Don't encourage this mental illness, it only makes it more difficult for those who really do believe their delusion to seek help.

And no, before you whine, bitch and moan, I'm not saying all otherkin are mentally ill, most are just attention whores and others are just role playing.

You're not an animal, you're not that fictional character, you're you, a human, and that's pretty much all you'll ever be. You're not an animal born in a human body, you don't have a tail, or wings, you never did.

Your otherkin does not exist.
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KlttyCorpse Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
wow imagine being this boring
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Lexa-dog Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2015
I understand if you don't like otherkins, I also think that most of them are stupid and annoying. I'm not an otherkin myself but one of my friends is a dogkin and so I got a bit interested in her beliefs. I saw you said being otherkin has nothing to do with beliefs and there I don't really agree. My goal is not to protect otherkins but you're hating on something you apparently don't know and that is also stupid!

My friend, to give an example, never believed she was part dog, she was a dog trapped in a human body, she doesn't act as a dog, bark or claim to be a dog. She believes in an afterlife and reincarnation. For her, your soul doesn't have a form, it's your body which is the form and make you what you are, your soul only gives you life and is a sort of essence (still according to her) and so a soul isn't human, nor any other animal. This means in a past life you could have been a cat, a cow or a human.

For her, in her past life, she was a dog and now she's a normal being human but her soul kept some things of her past life. She thinks it's the same with everyone but some keep more remains than others, almost everyone has a favourite animal and for her it's linked to that.

I don't really believe in this but I can't deny it's a belief, I must also say that that friend was born with a really higher hearing which was proven by a doctor, she can hear sounds most people don't hear. She also has a better sense of smell.

I don't say it's a proof but it's what made her think about the past life and all.

I would also like to apologies if this isn't clear, English isn't my first language so it's not perfect.
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BlackJill Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I didn't have to read your entire comment to know that it's complete bullshit. In the same way there is NO such thing as mediums, psychics, faith healers, etc., there is no such thing as otherkin.

None.

Also, what she thinks are memories of a past life are nothing more than her wild imagination. She was not a dog, she doesn't have memories of being a dog, she is not a dog trapped in a human body now. Stop encouraging this nonsense. A lot of people have an extraordinary sense of smell, or taste, or touch, or hearing, or sight. People in the food industry often have a much better developed palate and sense of taste. Those who work in the perfume or cosmetic industry usually have a more developed olfactory and are able to pick out smells others are unable to. Blind people are also said to have a far more sensitive sense of touch and hearing. Some people have excellent 20/20 vision and some people, especially women, have an extra cone in their eye that allows them to see colors others are unable to.

See? None of these people are otherkin. These heightened senses are completely natural and have nothing to do with this nonsense.
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Lexa-dog Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2015
I never said I believed the same thing as her but apparently you can't read well. I don't believe what she says is true and as I said I don't really care about what your opinion on otherkin is. Personally I think that any religion is stupid and I don't believe in any of these.

The problem here is your attitude and how you see things. You don't like otherkins, it's fine. You think they are stupid, it's your right but your reasoning of "I don't like so it doesn't exist" is even worse, it's bullshit too!

A person that claim to be an animal or act as an animal is bullshit because you can clearly see they are human but in the example I gave you it is a belief. I don't see why reincarnation is different than anything that is meant to happen to the soul after death. Thinking your soul will come back in another body after death is a belief and even if you dislike it doesn't mean it isn't. I don't think it's real or it's what really happens but it is still seen as a belief.

It's like telling religions don't exist, you may think they are bullshit, stupid or whatever you want and it will be your opinion but saying they don't exist would just be stupid.

I haven't said that because of her heightened senses she was obviously an otherkin...if you had read my comment you would have read that I don't believe in what she believes but as it's what made her wonder what happened after death and she thought reincarnation was the most believable thing (for her) I could also write it, I never ever said it was a proof or anything.
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BlackJill Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you don't care, then why are you still here?
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Lexa-dog Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2015
Can you read? Because I'm seriously doubting it.

I don't know if you're a troll or a nine years old who can't understand anything but I don't think the long message I took my time to write just meant that I didn't care.

in brief so even with your lack of intelligence you might be able to understand:

Otherkins are stupid=opinion=alright

Thinking soul reincarnate in a new body=Belief

The fact that you agree with it or not doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Lexa-dog Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2015
If you could read you would have seen that in the first comment I made I actually told that English wasn't my first language so of course I will do mistakes and won't understand everything but knowing two languages doesn't mean being stupid, if you want we can speak in French and then you will see I speak way more easily. 

I know I shouldn't have said that, it's that you can't read but you don't want to read and it's where the whole problem is, if you had read my previous comments you would realize I'm repeating myself all the time because you just miss the point.

The only thing I said was that you can't say that because something is stupid it doesn't exist, you can prove being an otherkin is stupid but you can't say people don't believe in it. Now again I don't think being an animal trapped in a human body is possible but like I said, It's still a believe. You can say it's stupid, it's true and that isn't a problem at all but saying something which many people believe in doesn't exist is also stupid.

in the examples you brought, of course  we can now prove these things are all false and stupid but can you say these beliefs never existed? No, because no matter how stupid it was people believed in these things.

So it's the same here, I agree with you that thinking a human could be an animal trapped in a human body is senseless and stupid but people still believe in it. They maybe need mental help but they believe in it and so it exists.

Another thing I would like to say is that, even if I don't agree with it either, some otherkin people are actually sane and don't think they are actually animals. Like the girl I talked about, I don't believe in her vision of things but you can't prove with sciences that reincarnation isn't real like you can't prove god isn't real. 
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BlackJill Featured By Owner Edited Jun 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
C'est bon, je parle français aussi. J'ai jamais dit que les gens (le peuple) ne croient pas ou qu'ils n'ont pas le droit, ce que j'ai dit était qu'Otherkin n'existe pas, peu importe combien vous ou quelqu'une d'autre le veut. Pas une fois je dis que ces croyances n'existent pas. Je dis clairement qu'Otherkin n'existe pas. Y'a une différence.
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Obsessed-With-Krazee Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2015  Hobbyist
mentally ill, attention whoring or just plain old wagon hopping on whatever new trend they see

yup you pretty much described all the fucked up Otherkin in a nutshel so thank you 

you also just described the biggest Otherkin moron on the planet actuallyautisticcole in a nutshel as well

:)
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Commander-Dominic Featured By Owner May 29, 2015
Yep, that's true.
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8Halostar8 Featured By Owner May 14, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Engrave this on my tombstone
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artsysketches Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2015  Student Digital Artist
"I'm not saying all otherkin are mentally ill"

Really not getting that from all the other shit you say.

Actual otherkin realise that they are NOT oppressed in any way, and do acknowledge theat they are 100% human, but that they are an incarnation/have a spirit of a non-human species inside of them
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Chreiya Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
I used to be neutral toward "otherkin", but now I can see they're all completely delusional and need mental help.
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Eternities22 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
+1
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FunnelVortex Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I came here for the shitstorm in the comments... :popcorn:
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TheMarquisOfDorks Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2014  Student General Artist
Its funny how all these tumblr kids tell you you're wrong and bitch and moan about it but then never elaborate on why what you're saying is wrong. And they wonder why no one takes them seriously.
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Chreiya Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
I know right? I'm surprised the furry-angel-shota-demigod hasn't shown up, yet.
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RaineSageRocks Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2014
my favorite thing about stamps like this is that most sjws literally flock over to them and add absolutely nothing of value to the conversation.
they just spout some random idiocy and repeat it over and over again.
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TheMarquisOfDorks Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2014  Student General Artist
Ikr lmao
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fuckernaught Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
ur bullshit lmaoooo *high fives bros* *skateboards away*
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HoochHound Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
sorry for grammar in advance because I am tired and a little hungover

I've recently dropped the otherkin label because of the very stuff you mentioned here. My whatever is/was for psychological reasons. I'm married, got college degrees, a house, and other cool shit. Never once was I discriminated against for being dogkin. I guess because I know how to fucking act.

'Kin issues are not on par with anyone's issues. I've seen/heard about terrible things done to people just because they were not straight or binary (beaten up, disowned, verbally abused). Even been through a bit myself :/ Just...holy fuck no.
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Nelauk Featured By Owner Edited Oct 9, 2014
otherkin make a mockery of trans people and other groups that are actually oppressed and should stay 939389923 feet away from me

they need to stop running around thinking they're oppressed when they are not. i have absolutely no sympathy for them. they are a joke.
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ArtificialCabbage Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014
It's hilarious when people say it's ableist when someone is against otherkin
And holy shit, when it's meshed with gender issues I die laughing. Most of these kids who claim to be otherkin are transphobic without knowing it
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DaBair Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm autistic and I don't believe in otherkin.
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RoseSerpenthelm Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Otherkin- a stupid behaviour in reality, but awesome in fantasy
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SKuRRly Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Student Artist
Did some research and found out what otherkin is.
Reeaaallllyyy? :lol:

Ahahaha let the kids have fun.
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alamostown Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
fuck you
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BlackJill Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
if you're anti-otherkin and think it's Funny And Cool to comment something rude on this stamp then you're wrong and you need to go away

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alamostown Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
your stamp is wrong though
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BlackJill Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No, it isn't.
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alamostown Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It Is :iconrondeliteplz::iconbaronalbertoplz::iconbaronlickyhappyplz::iconearplz::iconwow-plz::iconnharmoniaplz::iconhilbertplz::iconmypreciousplz::iconfartplz::icondarkyvictiniplz:
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hilbertplz Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014
i love ou
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alamostown Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ba
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BlackJill Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Fuck off. :|
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alamostown Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
otherkin is harmless why are you so mean to otherkin like. thats so hateful how do you live like that
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BlackJill Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't hate otherkin, because it does not exist.
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goat-mother Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
 I myself am otherkin and really I don't understand why you discreminate us??

Im not trying to be rude or start a fight, I would like to know what's your reason?
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BlackJill Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You can't descriminate what doesn't exist.
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goat-mother Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, well a lot of people discreminate gods and goddesses and God. Nobody knows if that exists, so mayeb the same for the otherkin belief?
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BlackJill Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No. Though there is no substantial evidence that a creator doesn't exist - nor is there any evidence that one does - it is quite safe to say that this otherkin nonsense is exactly that, nonsense. You can't descriminate that which does not exist.
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goat-mother Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I mean still, maybe it would be the best to do is, even if it's not true we should at least be nice to each and respect each other's beliefs??
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BlackJill Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So, it's totally ok for a schizoprenic to believe whatever it is their disorder is making them believe and we should all just leave them alone and all get along? Maybe build a fire and sing kumbaya? Make smores? Otherkin is not a belief, it's completely made up, much like religion. You're not being discriminated against because your human and civil rights are not being denied based on this nonsense.

You're not any other animal other than a homo sapien. Or an object. Or another person. Or an alien. Or an insect. Or a mythical creature. It isn't genetically possible to be anything else other than human because we aren't compatible with any other animal species, cross species breeding is not possible with humans. You cannot form an embryo using an egg from a human and a sperm cell from another species, or vice versa.

Even if a child is raised by a pack of wild dogs - which has happened and has been documented - that child would still not be anything other than a human. In order for otherkin to be possible, the genetic material must be present in utero, whether it be from the male or female, and must be compatible to fertilize and form an embryo. Until that is possible, otherkin is nothing more than silly nonsense, a game children play, like pretending to be a fairy, dragon or a cat.

You're not really a fairy, dragon or a cat, now are you?
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goat-mother Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well yeah, we can get along and not care about each other's differences in thoughts I would believe.

Otherkin believe they are SPIRTUALLY an animal. Not like in the flesh. We are all homosapiens, but our spirit/soul is an animal or another thing. It all has to do with a spiritual belief. So yes you're correct, we are human. But spiritually we aren't. Therefore, we like to call ourselves animals etc...

It has to do with feelings not science. Thing is I relate to the dog thing since I have a connection with other dogs but hey, all animals do to me.
Otherkin have a FEELING of being an animal. Not biologically an animal of course.

Well I would believe I am inside.
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totalKaOs9 Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014  Student General Artist
Otherkin is a fucking joke.
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ThePrincessOfChaos Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Pretty much this. Tumblr-brand SJWs need to understand that otherkin and ESPECIALLY fictives/fictivekin/fictionkin (aka people who identify as FICTIONAL CHARACTERS) are no way in fucking hell "oppressed" at all. Not to mention, the fact that they try to appropriate LGBTQ+ and DID issues and terms is fucking gross, homophobic, transphobic, and ableist. And they are becoming even more transphobic lately because otherkin feel they need to have pronouns just for being otherkin (bunself, plantself, wolfself, faeself, sparkleself, burdself, etc). Pretty much they add existing nouns and add "self" at the end of them to make "pronouns". It's really gross and appropriative of trans and non-binary issues especially~

Also transethnic/transabled/transfat people trying to compare themselves to transgender people is really gross and fucking transphobic as well as racist and ableist as fuck~
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Fancy-Fanta Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014
Exactly, they're humans, I'm a human, you're a human. Everyone gets to be a human!
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Quadroblitz Featured By Owner May 18, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
I'm a tapeworm trapped in a human's body and I'm offended.
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